More posts from the xcountryskiing community. for the second bar? Mondopoint: What is it, and how is it measured? Add to Cart. So if you have NNN ski boots, you can use them just with NNN bindings. $34.95. If this does end up being a problem, a replacement set of ridge plates is only about eighteen bucks. Salomon still supports their SNS system with the SNS sole, and the Pilot and Propulse bindings. When I went full NNN I missed the boots more than anything and switched back to solomons with prolink, by … Proven durability at every level of recreation and racing. Oof. I am able to snap into the bindings without too much trouble (at least on a carpet, not sure about a snowy trail). However, our daughter needed new skis, and we were out of old skis from which to scavenge old SNS skate bindings. Next, let’s look at your skis. If you ever think you will be using a combi boot (e.g. Then, you can mount the bindings on the plate without a screwdriver. Add to Cart. Classic SNS Compatible Bindings ... SNS Pilot Sport Classic Binding $ 92.00 $ 79.99. These boots are backwards compatible with SNS bindings, so our daughter can ski on her mother's old skis. The Salomon Nordic System (SNS) bindings are also constructed with a binding rod and ridges. classic or combi boots). Or, I can potentially use a soldering iron to carve in a groove that should hopefully remain sealed. If the top of the ski is flat and has nothing on it, you can put any kind of binding on that ski, full stop. Junior Pilot All Touring Profil Boots Mini Lab, Mini Back Country Boots SNS Propulse SNS Propulse Rc SNS Propulse Rc2 100% 100% 100% not compatible not compatible n/a SNS However the prolinks were much better for certain situations. IFP (which stands for Integrated Fixation Plate) plates are compatible with Turnamic NNN bindings only. They have a 75mm wide ‘duck bill’ at the front of the boot, with three holes on the bottom of the bill that line up with the pins on their appropriate binding. Read more. Bindings for combi boots follow the above-mentioned standards and technologies. NIS plates are only compatible with NIS bindings, which are NNN bindings that slide onto the plate, making them adjustable. You can adjust the position of bindings forward for more grip and backward for more glide with ease. Fischer claims that you can do it with your gloves on, but I prefer to put them off. However Pilot boots may fit a Profil binding, as long as there is a wide enough groove in the binding plate where the second bar sits. SALOMON Cross Country Ski Boots Skate Combi Size EU 37 1/3 SNS Profil. $83.19. Salmon and Atomic are two brands that make this type of binding. THE CHOICE IS YOURS IN COMPLEMENT TO THE SNS SYSTEM, SALOMON LAUNCHES THE NEW PROLINK SYSTEM In 2016, Salomon offers skiers a choice of boots and bindings based on their personal preference: more control (SNS), or more snow feel (Prolink). It's funny, all the older Profil bindings I have (90s-2000s) are completely fine with Pilot boots. Hope this helps and doesn't make you more confused. SNS is marketed by Amer Sports under their Salomon and Atomic brands. This is also a great binding if you wish to take up skate skiing. First things first. Cam Delivering secure performance, this binding is compatible with both SNS Profil® and SNS Pilot® boots. The Ten Essentials For Any Outdoor Adventure, How to Get the Most Out of Your Resort Day. Sure enough, my Profil boots fell apart and I looked around for a replacement. Compatible with SNS Pilot® boots. The key things to know to make the right choice are what’s under your boot, and what’s on top of your ski. While the Alpine world has offered one binding system for any boot for many years, the world of Nordic skiers has two products with the Salomon Nordic System (SNS) vs New Nordic Norm (NNN), creating debate and confusion at times among experienced and novice skiers alike. No. Originally designed for ski racers, the Salomon SNS Pilot has two pivot bars on the boot and clips on the binding which provides additional control. So, no matter what NNN boots you’ve got, you can click into any NNN, Turnamic, or Prolink binding. Quickview. However, it does not appear they quite work. Pilot boots cannot be used with a Profil binding but Profil boots can be used with Pilot bindings. Sounds like you have the older profil bindings there was an update that allowed for the second bar. NNN BC boots have the same configuration, but with a thicker bar and wider, deeper channels. Based on some posts in this forum (and elsewhere), I was under the impression that newer SNS Profil bindings would work with both SNS Pilot and SNS Profil boots. 2009 classic boots with RS10 sole will work with Propulse and Pilot Classic bindings. Therefore, boots and ski bindings designed for SNS use are not compatible with NNN bindings. $55.00. 2009 classic boots with RS10 sole will work with Propulse and Pilot Classic bindings. SNS Profil and SNS Pilot boots are not compatible with the same bindings! You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. Installing Salomon SNS Pilot Sport Classic Cross Country Ski Bindings I have some old x-country skis with 3 pin nordic bindings that I no longer have the boots for. Again, NIS plates and IFP plates are not interchangeable—Turnamic bindings cannot be mounted to NIS plates! At the beginning, it is good to know what the abbreviations mean. Salomon SNS Profil Binding and Boot SALOMON SNS PROFIL EASE OF USE SCORE = 4 The Salomon SNS Pilot. This is also a great binding if you wish to take up skate skiing. SNS X-Adventure: Stronger design used for back-country skiing (also referred to as SNS–BC). Use on and off trail 60/40. or Best Offer. SALOMON SNS PROFIL EASE OF USE SCORE = 4 The Salomon SNS Pilot. The next step to getting your skiing adventures underway is to find the right nordic bindings. SNS Profil, NNN Xcelerator, SNS Propulse, Turnamic, SNS Pilot, NNN Light Touring, NNN BC, SNS BC, 3Pin/75mm, Prolink… Sure some of these bindings are not being manufactured anymore but xc skiers are still using them and when it comes time to update a boot or binding the head scratching begins. Hopefully now we’ve figured out what bindings should go on your skis and can choose accordingly. Here’s a quick look: The three main families of nordic boot soles, with corresponding bindings below. A bare nordic ski, with no binding plates attached. Langlauf Schuhe BOTAS Aspen,SNS profil , 46 NEU, $24.35. 3. There’s an extra hinge thingie on the Pilot bindings that attaches to the center of the Pilot boots and … $11.01 shipping. Note the numbered adjustment mechanism to differentiate it from NIS plates. It's not really a structural part of the binding though. Contact our gear experts at 888-547-4327 or jump into a LiveChat! Available in both SNS profil, pilot or NNN styles, for race, sport, or back country Filter by All Classic Ski Boots Jr Ski Boots Nordic Skiing Overboot Skate Ski Boots Ski Boots Sort by Featured Best Selling Alphabetically, A-Z Alphabetically, Z-A Price, low to high Price, … NNN boots have a single bar at the toe and two channels that line up with corresponding ridges on the binding. for a Skiathlon type race), you wouldn't be able to use your Pilot binding. Additionally, Salomon also makes SNS Pilot bindings, and while Pilot boots can be used with a normal Profil binding, normal Profil boots cannot be used with Pilot bindings. If your skis have plates that look like the one above, they have Nordic Integrated System, or NIS plates. Close. XC Ski HQ Demo Rating: 4½ out of 5 stars. All SNS boots have a bar at the toe and a single channel along the sole of the boot. Cam Welcome to the subreddit dedicated to cross-country skiing, the best winter sport around. Bindings are compatible with all SNS Pilot Classic boots Bindings include full-length ridge plates that enhance ski contact and control Step-in system; pole or manual step-out using ergonomic lever is lightweight and secure Turnamic bindings slide onto this plate and are adjustable, just like the NIS system. 37 Church Street, Burlington, VT 75mm, or 3-pin, boots are the most obviously distinctive family of nordic ski boots. Need-to … Pilot bindings are more expensive (not a lot, but it's there). If you ever think you will be using a combi boot (e.g. SNS means Salomon Nordic System. I wouldn't cut into the binding for fear of compromising the structure of the binding. The concept of bridging the gulf between the two main binding systems in the Nordic ski world is a pretty big deal to insiders. With a full length guide ridge, these bindings offer reliable performance with a wide range of boots. NNN means New Nordic Norm. ... An SNS Profil boot will only fit a SNS Profil binding. NNN boots, or New Nordic Norm boots, come in both BC (backcountry) and non-BC styles. Originally designed for ski racers, the Salomon SNS Pilot has two pivot bars on the boot and clips on the binding which provides additional control. Open Today: 9:00 am - 5:00 pm. Hope this helps and doesn't make you more confused. Profil has been considered an obsolete system for many years now, for better or worse. © 2020 Outdoor Gear Exchange, Inc., All Rights Reserved. While the Alpine world has offered one binding system for any boot for many years, the world of Nordic skiers has two products with the Salomon Nordic System (SNS) vs New Nordic Norm (NNN), creating debate and confusion at times among experienced and novice skiers alike. This warm, comfortable boot has the Salomon Touring fit, a lace cover with central zip, mono-material outsole, over the ankle upper, and internal heel reinforcement. SNS Profil Access Bindings: Easy to use with lots of stability. We offer free shipping on orders over $199. Press J to jump to the feed. Meaning that Salomon SNS boots are not compatible with the Salomon Prolink bindings and Salomon Prolink boots cannot be paired with Salomon SNS bindings. Salomon Cross Country Ski Boots & Bindings. SNS Pilot Sole is compatible with SNS Profil and SNS Pilot bindings only. Once we’ve figured out what kind of boots you have, and if your skis have plates on them, it’s smooth sailing! Salomon Escape 5 Premium Package ... SNS Pilot-2015-16. Since it sounded like they should work with newer Profil bindings, I bought them. If I do this, there will be a place for snow to get under the binding, but I could potentially seal this with wax. I would either look for some pilot bindings for cheap as they are now outdated too or take a grinder and remove the second bar from the boots. The SNS Pilot Sport Classic is an automatic binding designed for maximum control, and with a full contact engine for solid classic kick and snow feel. However, it does not appear they quite work. Salomon Tour boots Salomon Race Boots Salomon Children's Boots ... Quickview. Shop Cross Country Ski HQ for all your SNS Binding products and more! The only real drawback of using RS10 classic boots with new Propulse bindings is that the new binding is farther underfoot so you need to compress the bumper to get into it … An example of an IFP plate. You need to install the plate on your skis, but you are totally tool free in the further setup of your bindings. So, the closest we could find was a pair Solomon Equipe Vitane boots with the SNS Pilot binding. NNN came out with the Nordic Integrated System (NIS) which consists of a plate attached to the ski and the NNN binding which can slide onto it. Pilot bindings are more expensive (not a lot, but it's there). 2. NIS plates and IFP plates are not interchangeable—NIS bindings cannot be mounted to IFP plates! 2. Based on some posts in this forum (and elsewhere), I was under the impression that newer SNS Profil bindings would work with both SNS Pilot and SNS Profil boots. Salomon SNS Profil Auto Universal Binding. Boot TypeCompatible BindingsSNS Profil BootsSNS Profil BindingsSNS Pilot BootsSNS Pilot Bindings3-Pin Boots75mm (3-Pin) Bindings. When I snap the boots in, the heel doesn't sit flat with the bindings. Size UK 2, EUR 34 and USA 2.5 These fashionable Boots should make any young skier eager and proud to go skiing with her/his friends. Since it sounded like they should work with newer Profil bindings, I bought them. There are five main types of nordic boot soles—all of which have corresponding bindings. SNS Profil boots have one bar, while SNS Pilot boots have two—one at the toe and one at the ball of the foot. Pilot bindings can't be used with SNS/Profil boots (e.g. SNS Profil boots have one bar, while SNS Pilot boots have two—one at the toe and one at the ball of the foot. Pilot bindings can't be used with SNS/Profil boots (e.g. Bindings are compatible with all SNS Pilot Classic boots ; Bindings include full-length ridge plates that enhance ski contact and control ; ... if you wish to stick with Salomon bindings to go with your Pilot boots you can use the Profil binding and avoid this issue. Salomon Nordic System boots come in two different options: Profil and Pilot (the backcountry variant of SNS, X-ADV, was retired in 2015). I only had one pair of sns profile bindings paired with salomon boots but there is very little noticeable difference. for a Skiathlon type race), you wouldn't be able to use your Pilot binding. Salomon Cross Country Ski Boots SNS Profil , SNS Pilot Men's Size 4.5 $125.00 ... Salomon SNS profil bindings $20 2 sets Available XC ski boots Fischer profil W10, M8.5 - very good shape $40 Fischer sport RF M10 profil $40 Still have questions about nordic ski bindings? 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