The .243 can handle most of what North America can dish out. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. My model 70 Swift with 55 gr. If you like extreme range shooting, AR rifles, minimum recoil, and possibly saving money on ammo (vs. 6.5 Creedmoor), the Valkyrie might be your baby. When the Swift grows-up... it'll be a .243. I believe you I just want to know what you do. For those who love to compare notes, the Fireball is a bit faster than the Hornet (2,987 fps vs 2,387 fps), but is often beat out by the .222 Remington (3,319 fps) and the .220 Swift (3,514 fps) all … The last group I shot was .325 Hope this helps. History Introduced in 1955 the .243 Winchester is based on the 7.62x51 military (.308 Winchester) case necked down to .243” (6mm). Coyote Cartridges: .223 Rem. Both the .22-250 and .220 Swift are very flat shooting, retain more kinetic energy, and have less wind drift than the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington. Available in 1 lb. I'm thinking the easy solution here is a plain vanilla 243 running 55BTips. Hope you get a good case trimmer for a Swift. Comments made regarding the .220 Swift as being more effective than several .243 loads must be understood in context. The 22-250 & .220 Swift are the two best Coyote rifles ever invented. I say keep the .243. I know a number of fellas that like to punch holes in paper with the 243 at extended ranges. Refine by Caliber: 220 Swift 243 Win. This bullet grains range from 40 gr to 60 gr, and its speed ranges between 3,600 on the 60gr and 4,200 fps on the 40 gr. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22-250 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. In this infographic, we make a direct comparison of the 22 Creedmoor vs. the 220 Swift. I load 42 gr imr 4064 with 50 gr nosler ballistic tips. Given the high volume shooting attendant to some varmint hunting, these may be critical factors. I've taken deer with no problems. I believe the myths about reloading the Swift and it being a barrel burner are just that. Good luck i have never owned either of them.Did hunt some with dads 243 and worked fine for me.as balistics go try comparing them on a balistics web site . The .243 is a better "all around" round. The .220 Swift (5.56×56mmSR) is a semi-rimmed rifle cartridge developed by Winchester and introduced in 1935 for small game and vermin hunting. .243 Winchester Doing perfect double-duty as a deer/coyote rifle, Winchester’s 6mm cartridge — based on the .308 Win. This does come at the expense of more (though not excessive) recoil and muzzle blast though. Refine by Caliber: 243 Win 25-06 Rem. Seeing as how you have and can get a train load of .243 brass I guess it's .243 all the way. It will drive a 55-grain bullet to over 3800 fps, and that short bullet at that velocity will provide enough hydraulic shock to plant a coyote where it stands. containers. loades in the swift will do all you need to do and are NOT hard on a barrel. Built around the standard-length Mark V action, it is available in .223, .22-250, .243, 7mm-08, and .308 in single-shot and repeating versions and as a single shot only in .220 Swift. Just my opinions. I have no experience with the 22-243 so I can only comment on the Swift. The secret of the .220 swift as a varmint rifle I have liked the .220 swift more than my 22-250 for the following reasons. BALLISTIC ANALYSIS. That’s a case capacity difference of 20.07% favoring the .25-06 Remington. I single load all of mine. H380 is also a superb performer in the 220 Swift, 243, 257 Roberts and other fine varmint cartridges. May 13, 2015 #14 243 is a fine foxing round and all round calibre. Max loads in both 22/243 and Swift about 1250 to 1500 rnds barrell life as in any caliber that hits 4K+ IME. What's the fastest Swift you have heard of? It can be said that the 243 is all you need, no arguemnet here, but if you add a Swift to your arsenal you won't regret it. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. More Guns. I have a first year production model 70 220 swift with a 3 diget serial # Standard barrel 26" long. The gun is used almost exactly as you have described. I use one by remington arms. The .220 Swift has a smaller but fervent following, yet the .22-250 Remington is undoubtedly the more popular, and maybe for reasons that include more than marketing. Id keep the .243 as well, good for light game & larger game. Build a 22-250AI with a reamer dimensioned for Lapua 22-250 cases. I have a 243 winchester and not trying to split hairs here and was wondering to keep it for coyotes or trade for a 220 swift? #I realise that if a shooter reloads brass with various amounts of powder Latest. They all have their respective place. Long story short, … On the other hand, the .243 kick noticeably harder than the centerfire .22s and its muzzle blast is more disconcerting than all but the most powerful .22s, such as the .220 Swift and .22-250. Barrel life is more shooter than anything. Today 243 Outdoors is taking over the channel. He is out with a Winchester Model 70 Chambered in 220 Swift. 220 Swift. We looked at the load data from our own loads of the 22 Creed and the load data from factory ammo available for the 220 Swift. The balance of light recoil and versatility as both a varmint and big game cartridge quickly led to the .243 being one of the most popular rifle chamberings in the world. If you prefer a bolt-action for hunting to 500 or 600 yards max, a 22-250 Rem. Offered in .223, .220 Swift, .22-250, 243 … .17 Remington .222 Remington .223 Remington .22-250 Remington .220 Swift .243 Winchester .257 Roberts .260 Remington 7mm-08 Remington .308 Winchester .220 Swift: King of the Hill The Swift is as old as your grandfather and burns barrels like they were made of dried pine, but don't let that stop you from acquiring the ultimate varmint round. Fishing. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. I had a .22-243AI. Vs. .243 Win. ruger, id like to know what you mean about barrel life being more about the shooter. Keep the 243 and get the 220swift, the swift is a great cartridge and barrel life will be as good as the 243s will be. If you heve to have 4000 fps to satisfy ego be prepared to replace a berrel after a few thousand rounds, just as you would if you load the 243 to max for all of your shooting. .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. A 60-70ish grain bullet is trolling along nicely and is not far short of the ballistics of the quicker .22 CF's. I am looking to re chamber a rifle to 220 swift or 220 Ackley improved. When the wind picks up I opt for the 243 BLR with 85 gr. Barrel life is more shooter than anything. I shoot the 243 with 55gr Bts alot and have had several that had over 2000rds down the tube without any troubles. In order to hit a distant target a rifle must be correctly sighted-in, and to accomplish that the shooter must have some working knowledge of the bullet's trajectory. 3600 to 3700 fps, 55 gr. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.205" Width: 0.473" Average FPS: 3845 Average Energy: 1674 Average Gr: 51 Recoil: 0.9 Power Rank: 1.96 of 20 The .220 Swift is an old cartridge made back in 1934 by Winchester and is based off the 6mm Lee Navy and even older cartridge designed back in 1894. Current one is set up specificly to run the 75gr Amax. HAPPY HUNTING. The swift is a great one and a great doggy round. I've been dinging around with the idea of a Swift for a long time... but ready some of the other posts about a Swift having feeding problems if the action was originally with a regular .473 bolt fact, that one would encounter feeding problems... Having had and used both, I would say 22-243 all the way and it is not even close. #I would like to know which of the following calibres is recommended for #best accuracy with the longest range? The 243 win has a case capacity of 54 grs, the Swift is 48. (25 at 4000) 8.5: 1.6: 3.5.204 Ruger (33 at 4225) 22-250 vs 220 swift vs 22-250 Ackley for large varmits, deer. In spite of the larger case capacity of the .220 Swift, most modern ammunition is only 100 fps or so above that of the .22-250 Remington. It's easy enough to hit 4000fps, or even 4200 if you want to step on it. The heavier bullet weights carry some very good exterior ballistics that buck the wind real well. The .243 can be just as easily exploited and once optimized, is far superior to and far more versatile than the swift. sierra hollow points. I shoot the 243 with 55gr Bts alot and have had several that had over 2000rds down the tube without any troubles. Its 26-inch stainless-steel barrel is completely free-floating and was made by Krieger, a company famous for accuracy and top quality. Swifty If you already have it, the .243 sounds fine to me. Interesting, "Everyone in favor of Gun Control... raise your right hand. By Ron Spomer. What if you decide to hunt a bit tougher game? He gets good accuracy- has to shoot 'roos in … Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or j The 25-06 would seem to offer the same flat trajectory, using heavier bullets. ", The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. Extensive information about rifle cartridge trajectory. and 8 lb. It was the first factory-loaded rifle cartridge with a muzzle velocity of over 1,200 m/s (4,000 ft/s). The Lazzaronis have a barrell life of 750 rnds per the builder if loaded to spec. Refine by Caliber: 6.5 Creedmoor 308 Win. By Chuck Hawks. Anyone know the normal distance on both calibers without exaggerating any or are they comparable, because I just need to know which one is the better caliber and for reloading purposes...thank you for any imput. Looking at the table above, it immediately becomes apparent that the .25-06 Remington is ballistically superior to the .243 Winchester, and understandably so because it has a relatively larger case with more room for powder, 65.8 grains vs.only 54.8 grains in the .248 Winchester’s case. So years ago I sold my 22-250 to finance building my perfect coyote rifle, in 25-06. Vs. .22-250 Rem. case — offers a great selection of bullets for the coyote. November 11, 2019. .220 has a known tendency to burn out barrels, plus as said before, you can do more with the .243. HAPPY HUNTING Discussion in 'Varminter & Hunting Forum' started by wboggs, Dec 21, 2011. Here’s a look at three of the best. The swift is a great one and a great doggy round. 10 Early Ice … From what I have seen the 243 is a bit better in the wind, of course depending on the bullet selection. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection I would keep the 243. I've run both and I like the 22-243 better. When a 38.0 grain charge behind a 52 grain bullet gave one hole groups from his 22-caliber wildcat (now called the 22-250), he appropriately named the powder H380. I have had several swift's over the year's, never had feeding problems because all of them liked being seated close to the rifling making the OAL too long for a short action. Keep the 243 and get the 220swift, the swift is a great cartridge and barrel life will be as good as the 243s will be. It's like they get there before you pull the trigger. I have been told to try a 220 Swift Ackley improved with a 1 in 12 twist with a 28" barrel. Model 700 VS SF (Varmint Synthetic Stainless Fluted) Model 700 stainless steel barrel, receiver and action fitted with 26" heavy, fluted barrel in synthetic stock. Supporter. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. At an oal of 2.750 they run flawless in a short action. I have both and use both for calling as well as a 218 Bee. Cartridge (gr@ft/s) Rifle Weight (lbs) Recoil Energy (ft-lbs) Recoil Velocity (ft/s).17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5: 0.2: 0.17 Rem. It should also be st… #Subject: .222 vs .223 vs .22-250 vs .220 swift vs .243 for Range/Accuracy #Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:53:02 -0400. 220 Swift, 243 with light bullets both really good, I use a 22-250 and a 20 Tac and there are many many others as well . hollow points is excellent out to 400 yds, providing placement is right and there isn,t to much wind. Refine by Caliber: 25-06 Rem 6.5 Creedmoor. Have had a few now. I load the Swift at about 3,700 fps and at this loading the Swift is operating at very low pressure as compared to loading the 22-250 at the same velocity. Never had a 220 swift, but a friend who is professional kangaroo harvester (he's shot well in excess of 100,000 animals) always had 22-250's, then switched to .243's, now has a 220 swift and absolutely swears by it. Description. or 220 Swift might serve you better. I have a 22/243 that I shoot 75gr amax bullets through at 3500fps. What are some of the advantages and disadvantages of the 220 swift and or the 220 swift Ackley improved. Getting 3500fps out of an 8 twist 27" Kreiger. Eric the Red Well-Known Member. There was no problem getting 4,200 with fifty-five Noslers with it. As far as reloading, I consider them a toss up. Gun is used almost exactly as you have heard of for light game larger..243 can handle most of what North America can dish out Swift,,... 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